Who gets raped and killed matters a lot when comparing youth gang violence and terrorism

Some make the argument that statistically the level of deaths and rapes from terrorism and muslim migrants is less than overall gun violence and comparable to youth gang violence.

The difference is related to the location and crime levels experienced by the targeted groups prior to the muslim migrant and terrorism versus the targets and location of youth gang violence.

In the US, there are about 2000 annual gang related homicides each year.

According to the U.S. State Department, the number of U.S. citizens killed overseas as a result of incidents of terrorism from 2001 to 2013 was 350.
In addition, we compiled all terrorism incidents inside the U.S. and found that between 2001 and 2013, there were 3,030 people killed in domestic acts of terrorism.* This brings the total to 3,380.

So less terrorism homicides than gang related homicides.

However, 90% of the gang homicides was gang on gang violence (turf wars and other reasons). So 200 innocent victims of gang violence. Both the 2000 homicides and the 200 innocent victims is a problem.
The 10% who were innocent bystanders but the location was in inner city areas of LA and Chicago.

The vast majority of people are able to avoid the gang violence by avoiding those inner city areas.

This not a problem for my location issue is the same view people have about the war deaths.
Fighting in Iraq, Syria, Israel vs Palestine.

So the 30-50 deaths per year in the US from terrorist incidents (excluding 2001) is higher than the number of innocent victims of gang violence outside of the inner city.
There is also the increase to over 100 terror related deaths from the fourth quarter of 2015 to just past the mid-point of 2016.

The attitude is that the deaths are tragic but those wars and youth gangs are not reaching out and threaten me in my home or when I am vacation in nice safe places like Europe.

For gang violence in LA and Chicago people have for decades pushed for and received tougher police action and tougher criminal sentencing and broadly incarcerated large numbers of the gang members.

5 year averages of gang statistics
Gang complaints filed with the FBI 1,401
Gang member arrests 7,370
Gang member indictments 3,689
Gang member convictions 2,758

Gun deaths and motor vehicles deaths are far higher

Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S

A November ProPublica article noted that half of American gun death victims are men of color in “poor, segregated neighborhoods that have little political clout.”

People with a criminal record were also more likely to die as homicide victims. Between 1990 and 1994, 75% of all homicide victims age 21 and younger in the city of Boston had a prior criminal record. In Philadelphia, the percentage of those killed in gun homicides that had prior criminal records increased from 73% in 1985 to 93% in 1996

About 1600 each year were domestic violence or partner violence homicides.

The perceived numbers of “that could be me” homicides is less than one thousand per year in the US.

Yes, black lives matter and other lives matter but less than “that could be me and my life matters more”. It is not racism so much as am I threatened.
People are not worried as much about someone elses domestic violence problem. They say, hey she should leave him. But the response is to avoid the situation and the danger.

If we cannot take convenient steps to avoid gang, drug and domestic violence deaths, then there is a substantial outcry for the police and government to do their jobs and create policies and actions to both make us safe and make us feel safe

Lumping all gun deaths together is meaningless to most people because they are not in the location, demographic or situation.

Another reference – UN 2014 global homicide report

Europe had very low murders and pretty low rape statistics, the muslim migrant related murders and rapes are significantly increasing the totals and the actual and perceived risk and reduction in safety

In 2012, France had a murder rate of 1.0 per 100,000 population,which is typical of Europe and about one fifth that in the United States. There were a total of 665 murders in France in 2012.

In 1971, the rape rate stood at 2.0 per 100,000 people. In 1995, it was 12.5. In 2009, it stood at 16.2. Some of the increase is likely due to better reporting. According to a 2012 report, about 75,000 rapes take place each year.

In 2011, Germany had a murder rate of 0.8 per 100,000 population. There were a total of 662 murders in Germany in 2011

Sexual violence in Germany has skyrocketed since Angela Merkel allowed more than one million mostly male migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East into the country. The crimes are being downplayed by the authorities, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments.

According to statistics from the Federal Criminal Police vedomstva Germany the number of offenses committed by asylum seekers has increased dramatically. Given the large number of immigrants, it is not surprising. In 2013 it was registered 32 495 crimes, and in 2014 – already 53 890. A particularly sharp increase in thefts (from 9421 to 16066) attacks with bodily injury (from 5172 to 8994). It appears that muslim migrants increased crime in germany by 65%.

More than 1.1 million migrants flooded into Germany in 2015 and the country is expecting 3.6 million to arrive by 2020, according to internal government estimates.

There was an underreporting and coverup of the the number of rapes and sexual assaults by migrants in Germany, UK and Sweden.

Gangs of young men encircling and then groping women at large public gatherings: who has ever heard of such a thing? In the Arab world, it’s something of a phenomenon. It has a name: ‘Taharrush gamea’. Sometimes the girls are teased and have their veils torn off by gangs of young men; sometimes it escalates into rape. Five years ago, this form of attack was the subject of an award-winning Egyptian film, 678. Instances of young men surrounding and attacking girls were reported throughout the Arab Spring protests in Cairo in 2011 and 2012.

The total number of gang homicides reported by respondents in the NYGS sample averaged nearly 2,000 annually from 2007 to 2012. During roughly the same time period (2007 to 2011), the FBI estimated, on average, more than 15,500 homicides across the United States.

In a typical year in the so-called “gang capitals” of Chicago and Los Angeles, around half of all homicides are gang-related; these two cities alone accounted for approximately one in four gang homicides recorded in the NYGS from 2011 to 2012.

Innocent victims of gang violence are in the minority, because most gang violence involves turf battles and personal vendettas in which one gang attacks another

New data on the 2015 Baltimore victims seems to bolster Davis’ claim that many victims were previously caught up in crime.

According to the analysis, nearly 90 percent of the 344 victims in 2015 had a prior criminal record. Of those, 80.2 percent had a prior drug arrest; 60.8 had been arrested for a violent crime; and half had a prior gun charge.

The average victim had been arrsted 13 times before, and 26.2 percent were suspected gang members, the report said.

In total, more than 90 percent of the homicide victims this year were boys or men, more than 90 percent were black, and more than half were between the ages of 18 and 30, according to The Baltimore Sun’s own analysis of 2015 data. Nearly 90 percent were shot.

SOURCES- Baltimore Sun, FBI, Modesto Bee, Wikipedia, Spectator UK, CNN, UN, Australia News, ProPublica