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January 15, 2011

Focardi and Rossi Energy Catalyzer first jan 14 demo videos and summary of an online Question and Answer session from Jan 15

Everyone is speaking italian but the instruments can be seen in the videos. there are better answers from the online Q and A this morning.

The technical aspects of their claims of multi kilowatt nickel hydrogen cold fusion were covered here two days ago.

The "online press conference" was today at 10 a.m. Italian Time. The researchers responded to questions in a discussion thread.

Summary of some of Andrea Rossi's answers -
The commercialization timeframe is at most 1 year.
We have contracts in the USA and in Europe.
Mass production should escalate in 2-3 years.

I estimate that the cost of energy made with this system will be below 1 cent/kWh, in case of electric power made by means of a Carnot cycle, and below 1 cent/4,000 M J in case of thermal power production for heating purposes.

No radiation escape has been detected, apart a slight deviation of gamma rays respect the ground values. [Separately they have stated they do not have a firm understanding of the processes but have some theories and are working to understand it]

Conservatively, I would say 0,01 g/kWh of Ni is the actual demand of Ni is necessary, even if the mass that really reacts is in the order of picograms.
The ratio Output Energy/Input Energy , conservatively, is always over 6 .

Dear Mr Daniel Zavela:
Watts in: 400 wh/h
Watts out: 15,000 wh/h
Yes, we can turn off the input current, but we prefer to maintain a drive and the reasons are very difficult to explain without violating my confidentiality restraints.
The reaction becomes self sustaining.

1) What is the evidence for copper production?
Answer - the evidence of copper production in past has been found using an atomic microscope in the University of Bologna. The same we will make now: we will bring the sample of the Ni we used to the lab of UNIBO and detect Cu

2) Is there any evidence for isotopic anomalies?

Answer - in the past we found them by means of the secondary ions mass spectrometer of the University of Padua. We will do the same now

3) How is the power switched on and off?
Answer - just [the same process] as [when] you turn on and off your television set

4) Is there evidence of consumption of a fuel?
Answer - yes, by an analysis. To measure the difference of mass you have to use the charge for months, because what you consume in a day is in the order of picograms

How much Ni is in the cell? Answer - In the cell there are several milligrams of Ni

How much total energy, heat and radiation, is produced per hour for a gram of Ni?

To make 10 kWh/h the consume of Ni and H is in the order of several picograms, but considering that not all the Ni in the reactor reacts, the actual consumption, to make 10 kWh/h is of about 0,1 g of Ni and 0,01 g of H

Are some other elements used to facilitate the reactions?

Yes, other elements are used, upon which we have to maintain confidentiality until the patent pending becomes a patent

How small can a working cell be made — for instance, for home power units buried in the yard?

The dimensions of a unit like the one you are thinking of, of course not considering the authorization issues, could be about one cm 50 x 100 x 50 with the present technology.

Question from chrismb- I would still like to understand why you think Ni62 could possibly have any exothermic reactions.

Collis Williams has attempted to reply, but it is naive to think that there can be an exothermic reaction from a resultant 6.15MeV excited 63Cu, as its total binding energy is 8.7MeV higher than 62Ni. Where does the extra 2.6MeV come from? Surely you have to balance the total binding energy, as well as the total mass, to analyse the energy flow?

The per-nucleon binding energy of 63Cu and 62Ni are around 8.7MeV. So it would be thermodynamically unfavourable for an additional nucleon to be added to 62Ni with only 6.15MeV available from mass-energy alone.

This would have to be endothermic if you have only 6.15MeV, yet the total binding energy goes up by more than 8MeV.

I have given a more detailed account on; http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=54883#54883 {which also covers each possible nuclear reaction (each of which cannot result in heat)}.

The question is; how can the 6.15MeV mass-energy increase of 62Ni+p->63Cu account for a total binding energy increase of 8.7MeV, and yet also be exothermic?

Answer AR Rossi

Dear Mr CHRIS:
I base my work on facts, than I work on theories.
The fact that we get 10 folds more energy at the output respect the input implies that something in contraddiction with what you are saying is going out.
As I said, we are working strongly upon the theoretical issues. I know that in this field there are still contradictions with the rules as they are known today.
Maybe you too can reflect on this and help us.

Question and answer condensed

What is the longest period of time that the apparatus was in operation? Answer - around 2 years.

On the Internet I found that you have been working on the device that would produce MW of thermal energy. What is the progress with such a device? Answer - The device, made combining modules equal to the one tested yesterday, will be in operation in few months.

Did you find or are aware of any limitations of power density that could be achieved? Answer - 5 liters per kW, just for the thermal power.

In the demo there was a mention of the gamma radiation spike after the input power was switched off. How do you explain this? Answer - The gamma ray issue is a very interesting one. We have to work a lot to understand it. Sincerely, I have not a clue, so far.

Here is an earlier Rossi-Focardi paper describing their experiments and what they believe is nickel being fused with hydrogen into a copper isotope

A process (international patent publication N. WO 2009/125444 A1) capable of producing large amounts of energy by a nuclear fusion process between nickel and hydrogen, occurring below 1000 K, is described.











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